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Green water – Pristine Blue.

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6:16 PM
July 29, 2010


jolson

Member

posts 6

It sounds like I need to try to pay a little bit closer attention to my water. I will try to check the water more often and see if I can get things perfect and we'll see if it bothers anyone's skin. I still have my stuff from Bromine, so maybe I will drain my tub and give it another try and pay closer attention to the water balance. 

AS for my kids, they are quite a bit younger than 15, I am gonna ask a question in another forum post, so we can keep this one about Pristine.

2:06 PM
July 29, 2010


waterbear

Member

posts 6

Not a fan of soft soak either.  Evenually most biguanide tubs succumb to white water mold or pink slime, both bacterial biofilms. The cure is a very high dose of chlorine to sanitize everything! 

Biganide is workable AND the only EPA approved residual sanitizer that is not halogen based so it is useful for those with a TRUE halogen allergy (very rare). However, as you noted, it IS very expensive to run.

Between chloirne and bromine, bromine is easier in a tub but chlorine is milder.  In fact, a properly cared for (and THAT is the key) chlorine system will have no smell and be very mild.

A more important question is how old are your kids using the tub and how hot do you keep it.  Hot tubs and children are NOT a good match. The heated water is actually dangerous for young children (below about 15 or so). 

In what way are you kids 'sensitive' to chlorine and bromine? Much halogen 'sensitivity' is just a reaction to a badly maintained pool or spa or an indoor public pool. Proper water chemistry is the key and proper testing with a GOOD test kit (and  not strips) is the key to proper water chemistry.

 

11:33 AM
July 29, 2010


jolson

Member

posts 6

Waterbear,

Do you have any experience with Soft Soak? MY children seem to be really sensitive to chlorine and bromine, so I am really looking for an alternative. Soft Soak wasn't too bad, aside from the ring around the waterline, but it is kind of expensive as well. It sounds like you are not a fan of Pristine Blue, so I would love to hear your thoughts or anyone else's on soft Soak. Thanks again. Smile

8:20 AM
July 29, 2010


waterbear

Member

posts 6

If you have any questions I'm here now also.Smile

8:47 PM
July 28, 2010


admin

Admin

posts 6

jolson said:

Hello. First off, great website. I searched Pristine Blue help and this is what came up, so I hope I can get some answers. My local hot tub dealer started me up on this pristine blue stuff, I was on Soft Soak, but it was getting difficult to keep up with. They told pristine would be a lot easier and cheaper (in the long run). I did my chemical check recently and added all of the stuff I needed to, then the next day the water was really green. I don't think it's algae, but it is kind a greenish tint in the water. Does anyone have any experience with Pristine Blue? Do you like it? And then, any ideas why my water has turned green? Any help is appreciated. This looks like a pretty new forum, so I hope someone finds me here.


 

This post was originally from waterbear and can be found at PoolSpaForum:

"From biguanide to copper…out of the frying pan into the fire! Soft Soak(bigaunide) is an EPA residual sanitizer. Pristine Blue is NOT. (their EPA registration number is for the copper sulfate it contains. Copper Sulfate is an algaecide. It's kill times are way too long to be an effective sanitizer in a hot tub! Clear water is not alwasy safe water.
Green water in this case either is from the addition of chlorine with some Soft Soak still present (did they replace their filters when they switched and completely drain and refill?) Pristine blue IS used with chlorine and chlorine and Soft Soak or any other biguanide based system are NOT compatible. MPS, the other oxidizer used with Pristine Blue, is also not compatible with biguanide.

Green could also come from overdosing on copper from the PristineBlue. It can color the water green, stain the tub, and stain hair and nails green. Yep, green hair is caused by copper, period! Pristine Blue IS copper, period! "nuff said?
However, I do not feel that the green was a copper overdose in this case.

I strongly suspect that when the switch was made to Pristine Blue the biguanide was not completely destroyed in the tub first A drain and fill is not sufficient. The Tub needs to be oxidized completely to burn of any remaining residual in the plumbing and the filter needs to be discarded and replaced with a new one since the biguanide residue in the filter cannot be removed. When Pristine Blue is started up one of the steps is oxidizing the tub with PristineExtra, which is chlorine. I suspect that the oxidizer oxidized the remaining biguanide and turned it green (which is what color it turns when oxidized, as anyone who has properly converted to a biguanide system to a halogen based sanitizer system can attest to! Pristine Blue IS a halogen based system, BTW! It is NOT chlorine free by any stretch of the imagination!)

The Pristine Blue system has two different oxidizers. PristineExtra is just dichlor, the most common form of chlorine used in hot tubs and PristinePower is just MPS, the standard non chlorine oxidizer or shock used in hot tubs. Pristine Blue is chelated copper sulfate, nothing more than oridinary copper algaecide. Can anyone say ripoff?http://www.poolspaforum.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif

My suggesting is to dump the pristine blue and use either chlorine or bromine in the tub."

11:07 PM
July 27, 2010


jolson

Member

posts 6

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm gonna give it a day or two and see if the water color turns back to normal, if not, I will try draining a little water out of it and adding some fresh water to dilute it. Thanks again!

I'd still like to hear if anyone has any long-term experience with Pristine Blue and what you think of it?

4:09 PM
July 27, 2010


admin

Admin

posts 6

Hi jolson,

We have a lot of information about Pristine Blue right here in our hot tub handbook: http://www.thespasyndicate.com…..intenance/

After doing a little research on your predicament, I found that a common cause of green water in pristine blue is too much sanitizer in the water. Due to the copper-based sanitizer, which is commonly turning things green, if you overdose the water with too much pristine blue, it will give it a greenish tint. Is it possible that you put too much "blue" in the water?

The sanitizer level should come down with use, just don't add anymore sanitizer, until the levels have dropped. Hope this helps. If anyone else has ideas, please share them.

3:48 PM
July 27, 2010


jolson

Member

posts 6

Hello. First off, great website. I searched Pristine Blue help and this is what came up, so I hope I can get some answers. My local hot tub dealer started me up on this pristine blue stuff, I was on Soft Soak, but it was getting difficult to keep up with. They told pristine would be a lot easier and cheaper (in the long run). I did my chemical check recently and added all of the stuff I needed to, then the next day the water was really green. I don't think it's algae, but it is kind a greenish tint in the water. Does anyone have any experience with Pristine Blue? Do you like it? And then, any ideas why my water has turned green? Any help is appreciated. This looks like a pretty new forum, so I hope someone finds me here.


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